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What Intel does by: Anonymous on 11/29/2009
INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL
I invented a CPU cooler - 3 times better than best - better
than water. Intel have major CPU cooling problems - "Intel's microprocessors were generating so much heat that they were melting" (iht.com) - try to
talk to them - they send my communications to my
competitor & will not talk to me.
Winners of major 'Corporate Social Responsibility' award.
Huh!!!!
When did RICO get repealed?"

Be advised
1) I am prepared to kill to protect my IP (Intel HAVE NOT
stolen it AFAIK - so you can't Sean Dix me) and
2) I am prepared to die to get TRUE patent reform.

IPROAG - The Intellectual Property Rightful Owners Action Group.
The One Dollar Patent.
My Problem with all of this by: Sean Kalinich on 11/9/2009
I am not saying Intel has not done somthing wrong here but I wonder why none of the other companies that are actively doing this are not looked into?

Apple has over 80% of the PMP market and engages in exclusive contracts that involve money and payments yet there is no outcry over this.

The movie and music industries represent a cartel as outlined by US anti trust laws yet they are not being investigated either.

What Intel is doing is done every day by so many companies around the globe it is not funny. Yet we do not see states and the FTC looking into any of them.

Here is a perfect example. Symantec is offering a discount if you renew and an extra year if you buy two from them This makes them less expensive than their competitors (who may or may not have a better product). Is this not a Loyalty Discount? How about other incentives like bundling?

To put is quite simply Global Anti Trust and Anti Competitive Laws are backwards and arbitrary. There is no way to have fair and even competition in a fee market unless the laws are enforced evenly and consistently across the board. Until that happens we will continue to see things like this while other culprits get away with milking the consumer.

As for the comment "This is not about whether Intel or AMD has better products (past, present or future). It's about whether or not Intel violated antitrust law."

The suite actually states that "Rather than compete fairly, Intel used bribery and coercion to maintain a stranglehold on the market," Intel’s actions not only unfairly restricted potential competitors, but also hurt average consumers who were robbed of better products and lower prices."

So it is about who had the better product/prices and if Intel did indeed rob consumers of better prices and products and hurt the market in general.

FTC expected to take action soon by: Anonymous on 11/5/2009
It won't be over until Intel start to play by the rules. The NY case is about past Intel conducts. FTC may be looking into something new.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140420/FTC_expected_to_take_antitrust_action_against_Intel

This is not about whether Intel or AMD has better products (past, present or future). It's about whether or not Intel violated antitrust law.
as opinions go... by: Anonymous on 11/5/2009
well it would be one thing if AMD actually had a competitive product, but since they don't really have much to offer it's not like Intel is screwing consumers out of a better product now is it?
AMD has always been short handed and short sighted when it came to the CPU market and probably always will. AMD is jealous and broke. New York is jealous and broke. Democrats always want someone else to pay their way
AMD PR on the loose! by: Anonymous on 11/5/2009
Isn't the last "business as usual for Intel" Anonymous comment identical to the one posted on Forbes.com?

Spare us the cut n' paste please
Cmon... by: Anshel Sag on 11/5/2009
That was an OPINION article. Remember, it is not the opinion of ANYONE on the BSN* team but rather a very important industry insider who wishes to remain anonymous.

As for the whole lets all attack Intel... i feel like Intel did deserve most of the things that are going against them but at the same time i also feel like there's a certain point where these lawsuits just get old and need to end. The past things that Intel did are now going to come back and bite them, and maybe they aren't doing them anymore... but it doesn't save them from the fact that they did them in the past.
For more information... by: Anonymous on 11/5/2009
For some more details on the New York thing here is a nice article with interesting information about the amount of money involved:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/technology/companies/05chip.html?_r=2

It makes last week's BSN article "Are all AMD fans - idiots?" look... should I say idiotic?
Business as usual for Intel by: Anonymous on 11/5/2009
The corporate email/paper trail is the tip of the iceberg. Intel had been acting like the Mafia and had been smart enough not to leave much paper trail. The antitrust investigators should employ more aggressive tactics such as wiretapping if they want to dig deeper.

Paying big fines and army of lawyers is just part of Intel's cost of doing business. They have a lot more to gain by eliminating competition.
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