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They are all doing it by: Michael A. McKenney on 6/3/2009
All the big players are trying to manipulate reviews and hype in their favor. AMD will never be as large as Intel. I buy hardware based on my need at the price I want to pay. If its more money, I don't buy it. Until users stop dropping $500+ on new video cards, the prices will not come down. Users need to stop listening to the hype. AMD will keep limiting ATI chipsets to a few. Nvidia will benefit. I bought a Sapphire HD 4850x2 instead of the 4870x2. Price vs performance was my basis.
RE: by: Theo Valich on 5/29/2009
Over the past 24 hours we had a lot of interesting discussions "behind the scenes". From one side, we were accused of "not talking to real people", from another, we had several ATI partners congratulating us and some partners from preferred companies defended the bottom line.

Have to say, really funny. In the end, everything is about consumer choice. If a company limits it by playing politics, that is just wrong. If people want to buy an AMG Mercedes, they will pay for AMG Mercedes. If you're not happy with BMW, you get a BMW M... seriously, this industry is more and more looking like a combination of car and airline industry.

Bring on Virgin America, Tesla, Ariel Motors and others...

Palit HD 4850 Sonic Special Edition by: parallelport on 5/29/2009
btw, here's the card

http://www.techenclave.com/dealers-p...on-129434.html

http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...4327&indexURL=

Palit HD 4850 Sonic Special Edition

RIP
@Bob by: Sean Kalinich on 5/28/2009
That is simply not the case here,
They are specifically saying that they cannot until after prefered partners are allowed to make their own.
Have you not noticed that Asus and others are the first out the door with theirs?

It has nothing to do with waves of sales.
People looking to buy stock will buy stock people looking to buy custom and overclockable will buy those.

After all if what you were saying was true the enthusiast would simply wait until the "2nd" wave came out and buy then.
where is the market advantage there?

It is not an economically viable practice. you gain nothing by doing that.
Wrong wrong wrong by: bob on 5/28/2009
Cross-post:
If ATI treated Nvidia partners differently than exclusives, that would be one thing. But Palit is actually complaining about being treated equally. None of ATIs partners are allowed to release non-reference designs for a certain period after the reference release, no matter who you are. It's done to set up two waves of sales, pure and simple. Not so that their main partners get to go first (as they don't.) And no one gets to sell 4850 cards with GDDR5, as it would make them closer to 4870s and undercut sales for that model.

Way to accept a press release/leak at face value, everybody. This is just Palit complaining about AMD's equally applied policies not lining up with their desires. Nothing anti-competitive about it.
Brand loyalty is out the door by: Michael A. McKenney on 5/28/2009
I hope after everything Intel, AMD, ATI and the rest of them are doing that consumers give up on brand loyalty and go for best bang for the buck.
by: hught1956 on 5/28/2009
I like your rules Theo. Hard to believe AMD would make a decision like this. It just makes me scratch my head and wonder. I would think they would be happy if a company could pull more performance out of their gpu. With their financial situation the way it is they should strive to sell every chip they can.
This is just scratching the surface by: Theo Valich on 5/27/2009
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we don't care about the color of the vendor or how good they are. All we care about is consumer choice and are the consumers getting a fair deal or not.

We will report about shady business practices from each and every side of the fence, regardless of the house in question.

When it comes to AMD and ATI, we have couple of very interesting stories coming. Same thing with Intel and nVidia - where we see consumers being damaged in any way, we will report about it.

If an author fails to go by our internal guideliness, he's fired. if an advertiser requests a story to be pulled down, their ad is pulled down.

And that's our guarantee.

All the best,

Editor-in-Chief
Wow! by: Michael A. McKenney on 5/27/2009
You would think AMD/ATI would want to keep every vendor happy. AMD is whining Intel pushes it out of the way. Why is ATI doing the same thing to Pilat. AMD/ATI management need to be replaced.
Interesting by: Sean Kalinich on 5/27/2009
Sounds like a shady business pratcie to me;

And here AMD likes to paint themselves as the picked on company by Intel.

Sounds very much like anti-competative behavior on AMD's part to be honest.

Maybe Pilat should file a complaint with the EU...
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