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by: Anonymous on 9/5/2010
Hello Terrace215/Chipper.
Bulldozer delays confirmed by: Anonymous on 9/5/2010
The bulldozer delay is confirmed over at semiaccurate.


http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/09/01/amd-outs-bulldozer-based-orochi-die/

"Expect it in late late 2011."


http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=65548&postcount=138

Might not beat Ivy Bridge (Q1 2012) to market, no longer end of Q2.
Spinning out... by: Anonymous on 9/5/2010
Keep up the spin JF!

Sooner or later, your bosses are going to update the public roadmap, and that will show Bulldozer slipping to the very end of 2011 or worse.

Instead of these non-denial denials, you could lobby your company to publicly admit the state of the schedule now. The fanboys aren't going to be any more pleased finding out later this year or early next.
Not making a statement by: Anonymous on 9/4/2010
All I was commenting on was that Chekib did not say "Q4 2011".

The official status is: sampling to partners in Q4 2010 and production/shipping in 2011.

We have not gotten more granular than that. I asked Chekib yesterday and he confirmed that he said "2011" with no quarter.

There are still some engineering checkpoints to pass before we get down to quarter granularity in a public statement.

JF-AMD.
Re: Dates are wrong by: Anonymous on 9/3/2010
"Your statement that Bulldozer is Q4 2011 is not accurate."

So does "JF-AMD" mean that AMD will not be shipping the Bulldozer until 1H 2012 or 2H 2012?

Inquiring minds wanta know what are the facts behind this one.

Dates are wrong by: Anonymous on 9/3/2010
The dates are:

Bobcat: producttion in Q4 2010, systems in early 2011.

Bulldozer: 2011

There is not a quarter granularity on Bulldozer, there is still an engineering checkpoint that needs to be passed before we give quarterly granularity.

Your statement that Bulldozer is Q4 2011 is not accurate.

JF-AMD
by: Anonymous on 9/2/2010
Thanks Theo - it makes a lot of sense now. I guess it's quite to be expected that they want to use the Bulldozer modules, probably along with several other new things on that die, for Fusion products in the future. I guess that exec may have made a mistake there, though I fear the hand thing may be equally possible...
Left hand and Right hand... by: Theo Valich on 9/2/2010
After talking to John, we have edited the article as far as Fusion part is concerned. On the event itself, AMD exec claimed Orochi is a Fusion based part. We have clarified that with AMD and the story is updated to clarify the situation.

To us, it's a classical situation of left hand doesn't know what right one does, given the history of mixups in messaging from AMD Opteron division.

We certainly hope that AMD will sooner or later, clean up their act like they did with their GPU business.

Ed.
by: Anonymous on 9/2/2010
"Orochi is the second generation Fusion part coming after Llano, which is now in test production."

Um, no - Orochi is the name of the die that includes Bulldozer modules and will be used for AMD's server parts, and possibly also the client parts. This is what they will sell next year, and has nothing to do with fusion whatsoever.
mistake by: Anonymous on 9/2/2010
"...nd manufactured on GlobalFoundries 32nm SoC/HKMG process."
you probably mean SOI?
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