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Jen-Hsun Huang pulls a 180 degree turn in 100 days



As I was typing my upcoming "State of 3D" analysis, I was going through the recordings of public speeches nVidia execs gave during 2009 and encountered something that might be considered as the key evidence in how many problems nVidia got with the long-delayed Fermi architecture.

Back on June 16th, 2009 nVidia hosted its traditional Financial Analyst Day, and during the Q&A session, an analyst asked Jen-Hsun the following question: "There has been a lot of talk about, I don't know, [being] nine months behind or something...on DX11 versus your competitor, maybe... some people are worried you might be losing share because of that."

After hearing that question, Jen-Hsun Huang, nVidia's co-founder, President & CEO gave quite an interesting answer:

"Nobody has shipped DX11 yet. We are just disciplined about not talking about the future. And the reason for that is because assuming you guys care to follow our Company, you actually care about our present. If I don't have a present, I will talk about my future. But I don't want to talk about my future because I'm selling GeForce really well. I've got a great new architecture coming and when it comes I will tell everybody about it. Until then, I let somebody else go talk smack. You don't hear Apple standing up on a podium and say we have great Macs coming because it is going to have this and this. They don't talk like that. Market leaders don't do that. You're not supposed to tell all your competitor's your secrets. I didn't read that in any books. So why are they doing that? It's weird. I don't get it either. It's a good question. "


The key takes from this answer:
  • We don't talk about the competition
  • We don't talk about the future
  • We don't talk about the products until we have it
  • We are a market leader and we are not telling competitors nVidia's secrets
  • "If I don't have a present, I will talk about my future."
Now, fast forward to September 30th, 2009 at 1:40PM Pacific time. Jen-Hsun hosted its keynote, which we watched from the press room. Given our media coverage of GPU Technology Conference, you might ask yourself why we didn't attend the keynote nor the press conference in which we could actually see the card live. The simple reason for that was that nVidia barred BSN* from the keynote after we disclosed the architectural details on NV70/GT300 chip.

But getting back to the subject, Jen-Hsun's keynote on GTC was all over the fact that Fermi is the future and that Fermi parts will be brilliant. Now, we do agree that this architecture represents a lighting jump into the parallelism world, but the unfortunate part is - there are no NV70/GT300/GF100/Fermi parts available on-line. According to our sources, the high-end GeForce products will be available by the end of 2009, with Quadro, Tesla, mainstream, low-end and dual-GPU parts all arriving in 1H 2010. But the problem that we have here is that from one side, a leader of the company says one thing on analyst day, and 100 days later, does a 180 degree turn.

With nVidia winning so many Tegra and Tesla contracts, we cannot stop pondering how come nVidia did a 180 degree turn and started to talk about NV70/Fermi on the GPU Tech Conference. Regardless of nVidia liking it or not, over the course of next several weeks, we are going to disclose some of the key contracts the company signed for Tesla and Tegra parts, and continue to ponder why the sudden change of mind.


Picture credit: Due to reasons mentioned above, we don't have a picture of Jen-Hsun Huang and Fermi card in our photo archive. This picture was originally published by InsideHPC.


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Comments:

by: Kyocera on 10/18/2009
It's to hope it is his last turn, otherwise he might get the "dervish" nom de guerre.
by: Anonymous on 10/16/2009
AMD selling DX11 cards will dampen demand even more im betting on.

"Theo, Nvidia will not talk about what next graphics chip they will sell b/c that will dampen any cusumer demand for existing graphics card."
wrong keys by: Anonymous on 10/16/2009
he didnt say those "key takes".

he said they dont talk about future tech until its ready. that doesnt mean when cards hit the shelves but when they are happy with whats going to be a part of it etc.

really you are clutching at straws with this piece of fluff.
Sharp Eyes by: Anonymous on 10/15/2009
AMD already noticed that discrepancy and put J.H.H's quotes (quite amusingly) on their slides:

http://hardocp.com/images/articles/1255470375yoqHTSY8O9_1_12_l.jpg

You can check out more of the slides here: http://hardocp.com/article/2009/10/14/amd_briefing_eric_demers
Theo, it easy to understand by: Anonymous on 10/15/2009
Theo, Nvidia will not talk about what next graphics chip they will sell b/c that will dampen any cusumer demand for existing graphics card.

GTC this year is actually about Fermi as computing device not a game device. Nvidia invites all the academia, etc. Nvidia will talk about how they can improve computing there so people will program for Fermi before its out. When fermi is out, people will be ready to use it. Nvidia is not a dominant force in computing so talking about future is good for NV.
J.H.H. Madly off in all directions by: Anonymous on 10/15/2009
It seems to me that Nvidia is struggling right now. The lack of clarity from Nvidia P.R., aided and abetted by the free wheeling J.H.H. makes for a rather confusing picture of Nvidia's future goals and directions. If we have an accurate account of GT300's structure it looks like a wonderful design for science and engineering computations but it is not the design to take on the Ati/Amd Evergreen Cypress and the upcoming Hemlock. So what is Nvidia really doing? right now it looks like they are running madly off in all directions. I do not see a lot of discipline or focus. I am afraid Charlie D. of Semiaccurate may be more right than wrong.
RE: Uhh... by: Theo Valich on 10/15/2009
I was on Hanspeter keynote speech the next day. Anshel was on Keynotes on Thursday and Friday.

BSN* was not allowed into first keynote for reasons known. During the keynote, I was in the press lounge. Not to bang my own drum, but I am kinda easily recognizable... red hair? ;)

Ed.
Uhh by: Anonymous on 10/15/2009
You were at the keynote speech Theo
by: tony v on 10/15/2009
Theo I think you are taking what was said, and then what was done, a little too far out of context. Fermi was still 5-6 months from being ready back in June - there was no need to talk about their future products at that point and risk hurting their current sales.

The GTC conference on September 30 presented itself in such a manner that it would have been WORSE to not talk about Fermi. At this point, they're 2 months away from a launch, AMD just released an extremely competitive product, and the GTC conference was probably the best opportunity to talk about their next gen architecture prior to it's launch.

If they had continued to wait, AMD's sales would likely be a little higher and they would not have had as large an audience as GTC to unveil Fermi.
It wasn't all about THEIR future by: Radu M. Cosma on 10/15/2009
I think the reason why Jen-Hsun Huang changed his attitude is that someone HAS shipped DX11 now, and maybe Evergreen was a little more than they expected.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an nVidia fan, but I don't really care about their present because GT200 can barely run Crysis at maximum settings :)
If I were a betting man by: Sean Kalinich on 10/15/2009
I would say that Fermi is almost ready. but not quite ready for a real launch. GTC was scheduled way in advance so the even could not be easily put off.

NV had to show something, unfortunately they showed a fake card and this became the focus. All they had to demo with were probably HPC based debug cards. This meant no DX11 or gaming shown.

I am very interested in see if the dates that I have heard are accurate and we will see a launch in early to mid November now.
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