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Will Big Blue change its color with discovery of a new pigment?

11/23/2009 by: Darleen Hartley - Get more from this author


Blue comes in many forms: sky blue, ocean blue, blue moons. IBM’s nickname made the color infamous. Where the nickname originated is subject to speculation. Many think it was their logo, others say it was the color of their equipment.

IBM System 360 Model 44A search of IBM’s archives shows earlier computers from IBM were red. The earliest color photo in their on-line album shows a System 360 Model 44 used for scientific computations back in 1965. A permanent disk storage unit was built into the system's central processing unit. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell what color the systems were prior to that color picture. If an IBM engineer wishes to correct us, we'll be more than happy to update the article.

The first photo showing IBM’s familiar blue casing is from 1982 in the 3083 Processor Complex which provided 32 Megabytes of storage. The name of the blue used was not identified. Blue comes in many flavors, and we wonder if their logo will borrow the recently discovered vibrant version.

New blue
Professor Mas Subramanian of the Oregon State University Chemistry Department and his students accidentally discovered the latest variation of blue, one of the primary colors. They were investigating manganese oxide properties, which can be ferroelectric and ferromagnetic simultaneously, The mineral came out of a 2,000 degree Fahrenheit [1,200 Celsius] oven a vivid blue.

The researchers published in the Journal of American Chemical Society and applied for a patent on the most durable, safe, and environmentally friendly pigment produced to date. Its supremacy is due to manganese ions being structured in an unusual "trigonal bipyramidal coordination" in the presence of extreme heat. They anticipate it being used in ink jet printers, automobiles, house paint, and fine art.

Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses III – Photo Credit: Roger Wood/CorbisIn Science Daily, Subramanian said: "Ever since the early Egyptians developed some of the first blue pigments, the pigment industry has been struggling to address problems with safety, toxicity and durability,"

Blue pigments have a long history. Egyptian blue is a Calcium copper silicate, shown in an image of Ramses III 1170 BC. It is considered to be the first synthetic pigment.

Ultramarine, first used in Afghanistan in the 6th century, was employed in illuminated manuscripts during the 14th and 15th centuries. Made from the semi-precious gem lapis lazuli, it was more expensive than gold during the Renaissance. A synthetic version of the pigment has been used since 1828.

Prussian blue, accidentally formed when a color maker was experimenting with iron oxidation in 1704, was the first modern, artificially manufactured color. Solutions of potassium ferrocyanide and iron [III] chloride are poured together to make this variation. Its name derives from being used to die the dark blue uniforms of the Prussian army. Many famous artists used it in their paintings, including Gainsborough, Constable, Monet, Van Gogh, and Picasso during in his 'Blue Period'.

A 14 foot layer of what has come to be called Mayan blue was found at the bottom of a natural well at Chichen Itza on the Yucatan peninsula. Blue painted sacrifices, both clay pot and human, were thrown into this Sacred Cenote. By burning a mixture of items used by the Mayan for their healing properties, copal incense, indigo plant leaves, and palygorskite, the fusion created Mayan blue. Paradoxically, Maya Blue although said to be resistant to age, acid, weathering, biodegradation, and modern chemical solvents, over time, the paint washed off in the waters of the Sacred Cenote.

Other varieties of blue include: Cerulean, the sky blue of artists; smalt; cobalt; indigo found in blue jeans; and azurite seen in cave paintings at Tun Huang in Western China.

IBM logo was designed in 1972 by Paul Rand. His definition of IBM blue was on the rightest logo.
IBM logo was designed in 1972 by Paul Rand. His definition of "IBM blue" can be seen on the third logo

So what shade of blue is Big Blue? We still don’t know. Even the IBM archives don’t indicate when the IBM logo became blue, nor what variation of the color is used. The only clue we fund was the image here which was designed by Paul Rand in 1972.



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Comments:

by: Kyocera on 11/24/2009
By the way Theo;

Nvidia did post that their Gt300 prototype is ONLY 10,5 inch long (why is this important?).


Charlie apparently got shipped to Easter Islands:

"Charlie Demerjan aka Semiaacurate is so low on spreading doom, gloom, desinformation and everything else on Nvidia's account that is has become boring.
It's to hope, that he has not been hit by a bus somewhere in the overcrowded Shanghai while trying to slip unnoticed in Taiwan; all while trying to provide us with the "first-hand" news."


"I am ashamed to say that i have accidentally given that fool charlie hits on occasion, but hitting links from other sites without checking the link, i can't wait for nvidia to slap the smirk of his ignorant face."

" Well, Chalfont, it's good to see and be informed from where the news flows; it's easier to judge the information.

Do you think, that in his attempt to slide into Taiwan, he has chosen the wrong container box in the Shanghai port? I doubt that the Chinese pictograms are his strong point.

If he is headed for the Easter Islands, the populace is better to hope, that he choose some food container instead the presents one.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1004573/charlie-demerjian-awful-gambling-intel-ceo-confirms"



And you did not update how is Ivica faring.

I hope you were busy bustling the future forum in your garage!?!

by: Kyocera on 11/24/2009
Truth to be told,no outside "survey" method available at the moment is what it should be.

The best thing is to have your own statistic collection; the less happy thing about it is the cost of such a solution.

I have applied an average between various services; between them are the two mentioned.

If we look only at Alexa:

38% US

9,1 Germany; 1% Netherlands; 0,8 Netherlands; 0,8Sweden

5,8 Croatia; 3,3% Russia; 2,4 Slovenia; 0,9 Romania

5% China; 0,6 Hong Kong; 0,5 Taiwan

4,1 % UK

2% India

2,8 Spain; 2% France; 3% Canada; 1,8 Italy; 0,9 Mexico

Anyway; you have quite a broad audience.


@Kyocera by: Theo Valich on 11/24/2009
Not certain what the "publicly available data" about BSN* is [Alexa? Quantcast?], but these are our Google Analytics data for the past 30 days:
1. United States 41.35%
2. United Kingdom 7.05%
3. Canada 5.82%
4. Japan 4.36%
5. Germany 3.53%
6. Australia 2.89%
7. Russia 1.61%
8. France 1.59%
9. Netherlands 1.43%
10.South Korea 1.33%

Sans Poland, I don't see China at all, nor Taiwan. This might be due to the fact that BSN* might not be available to two reasons: Either Google is not able to properly detect China [we see couple of thousand hits coming from both China and Taiwan, but not in volume to enter Top 10], or China didn't cleared us - due to our writing about censorship around the world [truth to be told, I didn't noticed us criticizing China as much as Great Internet Firewalls in Australia, UK, Germany etc.]. Don't want to go there, but now you know the countries in question. Besides Russia, I don't exactly see slavic countries in Top 10.

Ed.
by: Kyocera on 11/24/2009
http://www.sewanee.edu/chem/Chem&Art/Detail_Pages/Pigments/Prussian_Blue

All the recipes here above.

Chemistry anyone? by: Anonymous on 11/24/2009
I’m not a chemistry major, but my high school chem class had Fe for Iron. How my source got “III” for two types of iron mixed together I dunno. Here’s what the source said: “Precipitation from the solution of potassium ferrocyanide by a more saturated solution of iron(III)-chloride. The combination of the ferric ion (from the chloride) and ferrocyanide creates the pigment, the two irons have to be in different oxidation states (ferric vs ferrous).” You can follow the link in the article to see all the chemical info on all the pigments. Enjoy. Darleen.
by: Kyocera on 11/24/2009
If the article is written in English, it does not imply that the author needs to use some local or indigenous "cool" wording.
The author is writing for an International audience here.

Second to the available statistics there are far far more Chinese than UK speaking users on this site.
Slavic speaking users are the second largest group here followed by Germanic speaking ones.
Above all, using two completely different denotations for the same thing in one breath is slackness, even when selling salad on home-market.

If you were so concerned about "what I'm about", you should have asked the writer before this, what does a discovery of a pigment have to do with IBM???

Your Darleen was obviously painting her toenails and could not decide herself which colour to make them.











One more thing by: Anonymous on 11/24/2009
Just to clarify...

"English names are in round brackets; Chinese, Japanese, German, Russian, and other 6.500 languages in existence today have each their own name.
Scientific name is a universal name."

BSN* isn't a scientific journal and it IS an english langauge website. So it is entirely reasonable to use the english defintion for K and not any other (inclusing the scientific one).

Also, mixing terms such as ferro and iron is an idiosyncracy of the english langauge. As alluded to previously, english is a mix of many cultural influences. I myself am Scottish and even I use different words from my girlfriend (who is english).
But going further back, we have norse, saxon, french, latin etc. It is an adaptable language.

Simply put, in common english parlance, K is Potassium.
In science yes, K is Kalium.
But this isn't a science journal and this written langauge here is english. That's why Darleen didnt use Kalium.

Anyway, i'm off to work now. (If you call begging an honest job. Now where's my big issue?).
lol by: Anonymous on 11/24/2009
My main point was really to emphasise, 'so what?'
Yes, the archaic elements from the periodic table have their names derived from latin, however, the words we use to refer to them in the english langauge are not. Therefore in all practical terms, if not linguistically 100% true to their original name, the element 'K' is called potassium.
In that similar vein, we dont call 'Na' Natrium, it is universally known as Sodium.
Likewise, in Britain, we are taught the Latin symbol (K) but with the english name (Potassium).

The main thrust of this conversation would be that the periodic table is known by two classifications, in written format one might use the neo-latin term (K) but in descriptive terms or verbal communication, 'Potassium' would be used.


On another point, asking members of the public what the elemental symbol for Potassium was, many i'm afraid would not know. Fewer still would even have heard of Kalium.

To further enhance the scope of this topic it would be wise to establish education. For I, it is British and not private. Perhaps in other places it is common to teach the neo-latin terminology. However in so far as my education goes we were taught K is Potassium.
That may seem strange but thats how its taught here.

You my friend are obviously either well educated or well researched. Your knowledge most likely surpasses a great percentage of the general population and in having that mantle your comment was placed too far above the heads of others.

My initial point still stands...

So what?

(for the record your well reasoned response to my jibe deserves an apology from me).
by: Kyocera on 11/23/2009
Chemical elements have their symbol derived from either the first letter or the two first letters of their NAMES; to avoid having two identical symbols with the discovery of new elements in recent times (nuclear experiments) the second letter may stand for one of the subsequent letters in the name.

To make it short; a symbol is just a shortened name.
The scientific names names are Latin.

K from Kalium (Potassium)
Na from Natrium from Egyptian Neter (Sodium)
Cu from Cuprum (Copper)
Au from Aurum (Gold)
Pb from Plumbum (Lead)
Fe from Ferrum (Iron)
Hg from Hydragyrum (Mercury, Quick Silver)
Ag from Argentum (Silver)
Sn from Stannum (Tin)
W from Wolfram (Tungsten)
Sb from Stibium (Antimony)

English names are in round brackets; Chinese, Japanese, German, Russian, and other 6.500 languages in existence today have each their own name.
Scientific name is a universal name.

Agropyron repens is Quack grass in English; we usually try to keep it out of our gardens; all over the world.


If you would like to present yourself by the universal Latin name, than say Hominini Paranthropus robustus; everyone will know right away who are they dealing with; from China to Paris.

As far as the point goes; the writer mixes to languages and even (for iron) both Ferrum (ferro-) and Iron.

Kalium is a Neo-Latin word.

your description as:" 'new' latin- more a mix of saxon, viking, latin etc" is rather curious.

Potassium was discovered by Sir Humphrey Davy at 1807 in England. Origin of name: from the English word "potash" (pot ashes) and the Arabic word "qali" meaning alkali (the origin of the symbol K comes from the Latin word "kalium")
Well before potassium was recognized as an element, potassium carbonate was mixed with animal fat to make soap. The carbonate was made by extracting wood ash with water before concentration by boiling - hence the name "potash" for potassium salts.






Get a job Kyocera by: Anonymous on 11/23/2009
Wtf are you on about?

"Solutions of potassium ferrocyanide and iron [III] chloride are poured together to make this variation"

"The chemical symbol is K; therefore Kalium in neo-Latin; not potassium."

What i'm saying is, what IS your point? In the english language (which is most definitely not neo-latin- as in 'new' latin- more a mix of saxon, viking, latin etc) the elemental symbol of Potassium is 'K'. So there is no need for your exceptionally off base and irrelevant comment.

You're just a big fat troll.
by: Kyocera on 11/23/2009
"Solutions of potassium ferrocyanide and iron [III] chloride"

The chemical symbol is K; therefore Kalium in neo-Latin; not potassium.

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