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UPDATE #1: Intel Larrabee to surprise with performance, launch in 1H 2010?



After we posted now infamous story about Larrabee, something interesting happened. Instead of closing down, we received a lot of contacts from people involved in the project and actually have an even better look inside the project than before. It looks like old saying "the truth will set you free" is true after all. Following our story about EVGA and XFX, we got contacted by companies that weren't selected and they opened up about Intel's selection process and the situation got quite interesting.

For starters, we learned that recently, Intel's again changed its attitude towards Larrabee. In the past, individuals inside the company were bullish and claimed that they'll demolish AMD and nVidia. Few quarters passed and it looked to us that the company is taking a piss at their own roadmaps; delaying each and every ASIC into the future, followed by departure of people involved with the matter. But one of high qualities that Paul Otellini has is clearing up the matter at hand. After paying the price for his predecessors and cleaning up senior management, instituting his replacement [Sean Maloney i.e. "No Baloney", as one source told us], few quarters ago Paul ordered to clean up all the projects at hand. This decision also brought up project LRB. Transistor-heavy, humongous-die, underperforming ASIC was taken apart and each and every segment was analyzed in a bid to see why the real world part didn't deliver what simulations promised. Again, if we would count out co-funded developments such as Intel's Itanic - Itanium architecture [since it was co-funded by HP], this is single largest project investment in Intel's history.

During regular quarterly meetings with large OEMs, Larrabee was recently brought out and Intel's representatives stated that the part will surprise the competition with performance. Among other things, Intel re-iterated that the part is on track for introduction in very late first half of 2010, which would pitch the part in time for 30th anniversary of Computex Taipei 2010 [June 1-5]. After checking with our own sources, we were told that these dates might work for professional parts and accelerator cards but that mainstream application compatibility is still a long way out.

If Larrabee indeed comes to market in time for commercial cycle, AMD FireStream and Tesla C2070 are easy targets; AMD's passive attitude as far as FireStream line-up is considered is exactly the opposite of what Intel allegedly offers, while nVidia's long-delayed Tesla C2050 won't arrive to market before 2Q 2010 and C2070 is delayed until third quarter 2010.

The AIB partner list is also taking shape, although it was flat-out denied by Intel's Larrabee spokeperson - our sources claim that EVGA and XFX indeed signed with Intel for Larrabee. The list is nowhere as close to being closed. What Intel demands from AIBs is global approach to the market and ability to clear up any warranty claims, as well as carry in some cost of development. Interestingly though, we haven't heard about ASUS and Larrabee for quite some time.


Update #1, December 3, 2009 12:54 GMT - We have posted a story disclosing Larrabee's SGEMM performance [BLAS calculation, 4K by 4K matrix]  and compared it with nVidia GT200, ATI RV770 GPUs etc.


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Comments:

by: Anonymous on 12/4/2009
And the surprise is that the consumer version of Larrabee has been canceled.

Intel condemns tardy Larrabee to dev purgatory
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/larrabee_slips/
by: Anonymous on 11/25/2009
Larrabee means nothing until we see some direct comparison benchmarks against Nvidia and AMD/ATI products.
by: Anonymous on 11/25/2009
Larrabee is going to be a pile of crap, much like it's current IGP, but it'll get slight market penetration because Intel will shove it down OEM throats with checklist-features and bundle deals.
by: Kyocera on 11/25/2009
It (probably means)that Intel is going to offer packages with their CPU and motherboards, taking away the lucrative business sector.

They are already making exercises (with the small consumer) with the i5 (1156 socket) that supports only one X16 line, continuing with the 32nm with the integrated GPU and will try to break the sound barrier with the Sandy Bridge.


by: Anonymous on 11/25/2009
Whats this mean when both ATI and nVidia come in at 28nm and HKMG on their next iterations early 2011?
BSN fail. by: Anonymous on 11/25/2009
Intel says "hay thar, look, we'll have something soon, don't buy now!".

Talk about falling for it.

If LRB has been taken apart to sort it out since this new guy is in, it will have taken a while (six+ months) to fix the problems. Then the new, fixed design, will tape out. Then it'll be a year. Late 2010 is still far more likely.

So Intel will have some early HPC-only offerings earlier, cherry picked from early low-production wafers? Hmm.
by: Anonymous on 11/25/2009
Maybe larrabee becomes the terminator chip O_O
Lower expectation by: Anonymous on 11/25/2009
"Firstly, the company was bullish and claimed that they'll demolish AMD and nVidia... Few quarters passed... Intel's representatives stated that the part will surprise the competition with performance..."

Just keep lowering the expectation. What's next? Is Larrabee going to compete at all with Radeon and GeForce? Or is it just going to fill a niche in the HPC market?

Show me some meaningful performance numbers/targets please!
by: Kyocera on 11/25/2009
" the part will surprise the competition with performance"

the customers are in, for a lot of surprises lately.
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