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nVidia Tegra 650 is even more powerful than Snapdragon, Wii



Recently, we ran a story about Qualcomm's new Snapdragon chip packing more graphics horsepower than a Nintendo Wii. But as it turns right now, Snapdragon is not the only chip on the block that can pulverize graphics power of Nintendo's ultra-successful console. According to information at hand, 18 months old Tegra 650 chip packs even more 3D juice than Qualcomm's Snapdragon chip.

Based on a combination of ARM11 core and GeForce 6 graphics subsystem, Tegra 650 achieves a fill-rate of 600 million pixels per second. But with the ROP:TMU [Rasterizer, Texture Memory Unit] at 1:1 ratio, this also means Tegra 650 comes with a 600 million texel/sec. On the other hand, Tegra 650 can output "only" 47 million triangles, which lags behind Snapdragon's 80 million. But if you're getting an older version of Qualcomm's chips, you're getting sub-20M triangles.

This is some serious 3D horsepower on a chip that is supposed to deliver VGA or SVGA resolution in handhelds and maximum of 1280x720 in smartbooks.

But even with a fill-rate disadvantage [100 MPixel/s and 350MTexel/s], Snapdragon remains more powerful than a Tegra chip, given its dual-core Cortex-A8 CPU, while nVidia is relying on one generation older ARM11 core. But, once that nVidia launches its 2nd Gen Tegra parts in 2010, with dual-core CoreTex-A9 processors and GeForce 9-based hardware, we should see smartphones and smartbooks chewing up lower-end netbooks - to the level where netbooks will have to evolve or stay behind upcoming smartbooks. Unless you're getting a nVidia ION-based netbook, of course.


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by: Kakkoii on 7/22/2009
Videos of Nvidia showing off their newest Tegra platform at Computex 2009:

http://n4g.com/NewsCom-347495.aspx

And supposed specs:
http://apcmag.com/nvidia-tegra-hd-video-playback-under-1watt.htm
Big Effin' Deal by: Anonymous on 7/22/2009
Yawns... so? Wiis are still selling well,
Waiting for ARM Cortex A9 by: Anonymous on 7/22/2009
The second generation will be extremely compelling chips, that goes without saying. Dual or Quad A9s + excellent graphics power.

The first generation has barely come out sadly. An announcement 18 months ago doesn't mean it's been out 18 months, which the article suggests.

The graphics look a lot more potent than the low-end SGX in the Pre and iPhone 3GS, but Imagination also have higher-end offerings that will surely be utilised in next year's offerings. I don't know what the power trade-off with NVIDIA's graphics are compared to Imagination, but the latter are really really low power, for phone use.

I can understand why NVIDIA is hinging on this product line for the future. As netbooks become 'appliances' rather than computers, it won't matter if they're x86, and the ARM ecosystem is ahead by far in terms of everything else.
ARM to the rescue by: Anonymous on 7/22/2009
Looking forward to ARM-based systems taking x86 out of the way. If only Nvidia could've worked out a deal with Nokia, and maintained ARM in those devices instead of Intel's Atom -- though I believe Intel saw the writing on the wall and subsidized heavily to get their foot in that door.

C'mon ARM! Beat x86!
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