BRIGHT SIDE OF NEWS About | Advertise | Contact BSN USER Login
| Register
SUBSCRIBE Newsletter | RSS Feeds
Friday, March 19, 2010
Email this to a friend.
Your friend's e-mail:
Your Name:
Your e-mail:
Message subject:

Buyer Beware: Roline's $10 cable can cause $1100 in damage



In my 19 years of experience with personal computers and 10 years of being a hardware reviewer, I have never experienced that a cable would cause the death of two connecting components. But as they say, there is always a first.

This cable (note the buldge on the SAS port) fried two precious components of our testing setup
This cable (note the buldge on the SAS port) fried two precious components of our testing setup

This time around, the honor of killing a 600GB Cheetah 15.7K SAS drive and Intel's DX58SO "Smackover" motherboard goes to Roline's "SAS to Dual SATA" adapter. We had two Seagate Cheetahs and decided to connect them to a SATA-equipped motherboard to check if RAID0 and RAID1 would be possible on a dual-SATA connector, e.g. enjoying the full speed of these SAS drives on a SATA motherboard.

Roline 11.03.1065R e.g. Roline SAS to Dual SATA cableAccording to numbers achieved on an SAS motherboard, we expected to comfortably bottleneck the ICH10R Southbridge chip in the same manner two Solid State Drives would [Intel's Southbridge chip is capped at around 450MB/s].

But thanks to Roline's 11.03.1065R cable, we were unable to do that. Roline is a brand of Rotronic AG, a Swiss-based company with a tag-line "Designed for Professionals" using manufacturing facilities in China. Sadly, this time around Roline designed and manufactured a quite expensive [$11] cable that burned over $1000 of equipment and pushed our reviewing schedule back. The 600GB version of the Seagate Cheetah 15.7K is called the fastest hard drive in the world, and seeing it in action - we sorta agree to these claims, since it can even challenge Solid State Drives at a higher capacity. But with the price of 820 dollars, seeing this drive going in flames with Intel's DX58SO motherboard (around $240) meant that we are down by almost 1100 USD.

At first, it started off ideally - we purchased two Roline SAS to Dual SATA Cables, connected two drives into the DX58SO motherboard and turned the system on. The moment we booted the system, the temperature in the cable sparked through the roof and we felt a heatwave going around the system. Even though we switched off the power supply within two seconds after the boot, the damage was done. SAS Cable

During our analysis, we concluded that Rotronic AG miss-manufactured this cable, and the power from the Molex cable was routed directly onto the second SATA cable, where it made a burst and melted the plastic on the connector itself, SATA cable on the Roline cable, and melted power and data connectors on the Cheetah 15.7K, and fried a SATA port on the motherboard, rendering it useless. This small manufacturing mistake resulted in quite unfortunate damage and a loss of our testing data [we were in RAID0 part of testing]. We are waiting on new components to continue the testing, and you will see the first article coming next week.

But seriously, we did not expect that a cable is going to be miss-manufactured in a way that power would route from the Molex connector to the SATA port and fry everything up. The other drive, thanks heavens - works perfectly with Roline's SAS to Dual SATA adapter.


© 2009 - 2010 Bright Side Of News*, All rights reserved.



Related articles:

Tags:

Share and enjoy :)

  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • StumbleUpon
  • TwitThis
  • Reddit
  • Furl
  • Google
  • Technorati
  • Sphinn
  • Mixx
  • Facebook
  • LinkedIn
  • Slashdot
  • Newsvine
  • Ma.gnolia
  • BlinkList
  • connotea
  • Fark
  • MisterWong
  • Netvouz
  • PlugIM
  • Propeller
  • Simpy
  • SphereIt
  • Spurl
  • ThisNext
  • YahooMyWeb
  • co.mments
  • Live
  • MySpace
  • Yahoo! Buzz

Would you like to purchase related items?

X58
Intel Motherboard - LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA CrossFireX Ready Triple Channel DDR3 support RAID Hyperthreading support DX58SO BOXDX58SO
Intel Corp. Motherboard X58 Core i7 ATX Max 16GB DDR3 3PCIEX16 PCI GBE Audio SATA BOXDX58SO
Intel Motherboard - LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA CrossFireX Ready Triple Channel DDR3 support RAID Hyperthreading support DX58SO BOXDX58SO
BOXDX58SO Intel X58 Core i7 Socket 1366 PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 ATX Motherboard Retail INTEL BOXDX58SO
Seagate
Amazon.com Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5 TB SATA 32 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Hard Drive ST31500341AS Electronics Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5 TB SATA 32 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Hard Drive ST31500341AS ST31500341AS ST31500341AS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5 Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ST31500341AS ST31500341AS ST31500341AS Barracuda 7200.11
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA-3G OEM ST31500341AS ST31500341AS
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA-3G OEM ST31500341AS ST31500341AS
Intel
Intel Motherboard - LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA CrossFireX Ready Triple Channel DDR3 support RAID Hyperthreading support DX58SO BOXDX58SO
Intel Corp. Motherboard X58 Core i7 ATX Max 16GB DDR3 3PCIEX16 PCI GBE Audio SATA BOXDX58SO
Intel Motherboard - LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA CrossFireX Ready Triple Channel DDR3 support RAID Hyperthreading support DX58SO BOXDX58SO
Intel Extreme Desktop Board - BOXDX58SO DX58SO The Intel Desktop Board is designed to unleash the power of the all new Intel Core i7 processors with support for up to eight threads of raw CPU


Comments:

@Anonymous by: Sean Kalinich on 8/17/2009
The intent of the cable is to allow you to connect an SAS Device to a SATA controller.

It is supposed to use two SATA ports to maintain the SAS Speed wile pulling power from the usual 4-Pin Molex connector.

The device failed because it was defective.
Cables by: Michael A. McKenney on 8/15/2009
I use a LSI Logic 8708EM2 SAS RAID controller and Supermicro SAS enclosure. I only use the cables recommended by LSI Logic and Supermicro. I talked to LSI Logic about the correct cable that they tested with.

The cables are $50 each.

You can use either SAS or SATA on this controller but not both. The Supermicro enclosures hold 8 x 2.5" SAS drives like a HP Proliant server.
We will do everything by: Theo Valich on 8/14/2009
When it comes to testing equipment for our readers, we will go beyond the call of duty with equipment, and we will not remain silent on that.

We also had an issue where Cooler Master's UCP 900W power supply suffered a melt-down after the fan stopped spinning out of thin air - and fried a multi-K USD setup.

When it comes to this particular case, it is a clear cut as far as I am personally considered. We did all the tests on a motherboard with a SAS controller. Then, I noticed a "SAS-to-Dual SATA" adapter and I bought TWO of them (as written in the story), and connected the TWO adapters to TWO Seagate Cheetah's and connected four SATA cables onto the motherboard.

One cable works, one hard drive works. The ONE cable in question fried ONE drive and the motherboard. Core i965 works, Corsair DDR3 memory works, nVidia Quadro FX 4800 works, SECOND Roline cable works, SECOND Cheetah drive works.

If your assumption was correct, then I would have two fried cables and two fried Cheetahs. One drive works flawlessly (knock on wood), same thing with one Roline cable.

But one cable went bust and took motherboard and a hard drive with it.

No hard feelings, just honest reporting.
Ed.
Good to know by: Anonymous on 8/14/2009
I feel your pain, but it is good to hear that somebody on the whole Internet saw something in the store, bought it and saw that it doesn't work.
Too many sites write that everything is sugar and spice, and real world tales a different tale.
by: Anonymous on 8/14/2009
"Sorry, it's not Roline's fault but all yours."

So Roline produces a cable that it says can do this (The cable is an "SAS to Dual SATA" adapter), the review uses this and you blame them for uses the cable for it's intended purpose?
by: Anonymous on 8/14/2009
I simply cannot believe that you've done that. You write hardware reviewer for two decades and did not know that you MUST NOT connect SAS components to SATA controllers?

Take a look at the SAS specs... They differ already at the electrical level.

You can do the opposite however (connect SATA drives to SAS controllers), since a SAS controller can detect wheter an attached device is a SATA drive and then adjust its electrical interface to SATA transmission modes.


Sorry, it's not Roline's fault but all yours.
Ouch by: Anonymous on 8/13/2009
Whew that's rough. I wonder how many components were fried world wide from this shoddy product.
Leave a comment:

Author:

Title:

Comment:


Enter the code shown above:

(Note: If you cannot read the numbers in the above
image, reload the page to generate a new one.)




Highlight
  • AMD forms Fusion strategy, Offensive for 2011 set
  • PowerDVD 10 creates 3D movies from 2D ones, MKV included
  • Updated GTX 470 / 480 Specs Leak Out
  • Apple loses Director York to an aneurysm
  • Apple loses Director York to an aneurysm
March 20, 2010, 20:00 UTC

Dear Readers,

In order to enable new features for the site, we'll be temporarily offline on Saturday, March 20th 2010 at noon Pacific, 3PM Eastern or 8PM/20:00 GMT/UTC. We should be offline for 15-25min, after which you should be able to see new features.

Thank You for understanding,

The BSN* Team

© 2009 - 2010 Bright Side Of News*, All rights reserved.